Devuan meet Tue. Feb 13, 2018 @20:30 UTC 🔼

Please post notes prior to the meet.
Please add your name as 'Present' below when you get to the meet.
When adding a comment in someone else's notes, please pre-pend your name like this: (whoever) whatever . . .

Present: amesser, fredd, golinux, Irrwahn, jaromil, KatolaZ, NewGnuGuy, nextime, parazyd, rrq

Agenda 🔼

Tested (using netinst iso) Cinnamon, LXDE, LXQt, MATE, KDE/Plasma, Xfce on system(s) with elogind-enabled policykit, with SLiM, lightdm and sddm. Lightdm and sddm always led to a fully functional desktop, while with slim some DEs were occasionally missing the Hibernate and Suspend options. Of course the default setup consolekit/SLiM/Xfce remains fully functional. Even an all-in installation with every tasksel option checked provided me with six different DEs that could be started by three different DMs, results as above. A quick test with lxdm on that system yielded results similar to those achieved with

We should be prepared for minor glitches when people update older Ascii installations. In some reported cases libpolkit-backend-1-0-systemd got pulled in, which is useless for session management in Devuan.

Shout-out to amesser, Hleb, gnu_srs (and whoever I forgot, sorry!) for packaging, and last not least KatolaZ for patiently kicking d-i into shape!

get rDNS for dev1galaxy.org reinstated. (has got lost somehow) (golinux) I alerted jaromil to this at the Monday meet today
installed and configured znc at dev1galaxy.org:65530 (using SSL with self-signed certificate) znc is an "IRC bouncer".
run as znc-server at dev1galaxy. manually.
set up myself as admin.
- ((Irrwahn) Great! Done, thanks a lot! :-) ~~May I humbly dare to apply for an account? Would solve my backlog issues.~~)
- easiest (for me) is by email including preferred user name and (first) password. I believe the account is then configurable with a web browser pointed at the same host:port.
trialling the use of the forum SSL cert; to be permanent, it'll require a one-liner added to the cert update.

At my suggestion, rrq set up znc (an irc bouncer) at dev1galaxy so dev1rs can have access to irc activity while they have been

In addition to the dev1galaxy dns issues, someone from Dyne will look into the missing emails on lurker that both blinkdog and I observed.
(rrq) the URL sugggested they were moved temporally to end of time,
Several of us have tried to contact Evilham but there has been no

Here is a gnome-darkpurpy icon theme to compliment the darkpurpy desktop wallpaper. Note that this is intended for the stable release, not the beta https://transfer.sh/qZPYy/gnome-darkpurpy.zip I would LOVE to have them repackaged and included as default but evidently that's not so easy to do. Currently I am just replacing them in a copy of /usr/share/icons/gnome named gnome-darkpurpy. I do hope that one of you can figure this out.
(Irrwahn) Note: Upstream of gnome-icon-theme looks stale since March 2014. They seem to favor Adwaita. Maybe the MATE fork at https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-icon-theme would make for a better foundation?
- (golinux) Believe me I weighed all options before settling on the gnome set. The Mate icons which are basically a customized gnome are too bright and garrish for anything I'd want to look at. Until ascii I'd been using gnome icons that date back to 2010! Now that's stale - not! The folder icons (the only ones that need re-coloring) have hardly changed since then but there are more device icons etc. and the gnome ones are fairly unobtrusive.
- (Irrwahn) Okay, but would forking a stale icon theme be any good? I would expect a lot of icons missing.)
  - (golinux) I have never noticed an icon missing even with the very 'stale' set. Of course that's just my usecase.

Have done some test installs (latest mini isos, internal beta). Tried both simple and expert installs with network attached, trying out KDE 5. I think I 've stumbled upon a bug: I install synaptic from console, but then I cannot open it from the menu. Can anyone reproduce that?
(golinux) well-known issue. I can't remember the fix. I just use gksu from a launcher.) I used pkgmaster.do A few months earlier, I did a jessie install, with no DE, which I then upgraded to ASCII. That problem with the menu didn't occur back then.
An idea for possibly a point release: Along with the other tasksel options, we could also include an option for an openbox desktop, with obmenu-generator, tint2 and the like (a lightweight option, like vuu-do or star). Never forget that there is a lot of old, "outdated" hardware out there, that is poorly used, or not used at all. Having an option of a desktop with little cpu and ram usage would be great.
I have some other ideas, too, but imho they would fit better with devuan 3.
(Irrwahn) Would be nice to have a place to collect Beowulf wishlist items?!)

I can't make it to the meeting. Might be able to check in irc.