Devuan meet Wed. Jan 17, 2018 @20:30 UTC 🔼

Pad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/view/ZV6qCBXy+kmvFruTJ+YPsg/UdbnxXahhVJkMX7NttB9Snu7bpBkM8zYnAuyCVY4SrE/

Meet here: https://vdc.dyne.org/devuan

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Present: blinkdog, chillfan, fsmithred, golinux, KatolaZ, msi, obeardly, parazyd

Agenda 🔼

Old Business 🔼

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Old Actions 🔼

All done

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msi 🔼

  • Devuan documentation
  • blinkdog, chillfan, golinux and I had a documentation meet on Friday, Jan 12
  • Notes from that meeting have been sent to the devuan-dev list and are also available on the pad we used: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/1/view/gpYc1DChNCgm1CIKcbwoog/FPyMa+MlLIIJ17bjaREXmxwkpgD2hLnhbFs5S2lOqQk/
  • next meeting yet to be scheduled
  • proposals need to be discussed
    • Structure
    • We're going with Manual, guides, howtos, developers' docs as a categorization for now.
    • Naming and versioning
    • Naming scheme for Devuan Manual: Devuan [MAJOR RELEASE VERSION].x ([RELEASE CODE NAME]) Manual
    • Don't entangle the version numbers of release-specific manuals with Devuan's release version.
      • Versions of the Devuan Manual for a particular (major) release start at 1.0.0
      • (golinux) Would someone using an older (not updated) version need to have access to older documentation versions? That might be a reason for keeping them around insteading of continuously updating them. If that's a good reason (which it may not be) and the changes are minor, maybe we could post them in an addendum (maybe not the right word) to the current
    • Licensing
    • (blinkdog) The GFDL seems focused on paper/printed manuals, and the Front Cover, Back Cover, Invariant Section portions of the license are difficult to understand and apply; especially to pure digital content.
    • (blinkdog) As a possible alternative, the CC-BY-SA 4.0 license would allow us to do a GNU-like documentation share-and-share-alike. You have to maintain contributor history (which the wiki does automatically), but anybody is free to fork and remix the documentation, so long as they let others do the
      1. It may be a good alternative to the GFDL that preserves the goals, but in a more understandable and straightforward
    • All contributions will be put under that license as part of Devuan's official docs.
      • (They may still be published under other licenses outside of that if need be.)
    • Have a general notice about the license used in the Wiki's footer as well as the footers of individual documents (Manual, howto etc.) when they are released.

rrq will attend 🔼

KatolaZ (will attend, maybe a bit later) 🔼

  • worked on mirrors - improved check for reliability and update (will ask RR-mirrors to increment the update frequency to once/30-60min)
  • helped with the upload of elogind and consolekit2 to experimental
  • worked with parazyd on installer images -- still on it (glitches, cruft, etc.)
  • worked a bit on minimal-live - almost there
  • worked on info.devuan.mine.nu -- added all the suites -- still need to improve a few things, and then will work a bit on the graphical aspect (but I am not too much eager to do that)

parazyd 🔼

  • been hacking with katolaz on the installers. we manage to build isos, but something in d-i is broken that needs more investigation
  • maemo leste proceeding well. we managed to rebase all our code to be compatible with ascii, and we're pushing openrc which is behaving okay
  • if anyone is interested: https://github.com/maemo-leste
  • maemo leste will be very helpful for openrc integration as we're porting all our initscripts (about 90% done) to openrheloc.
  • they were based on upstart
  • i updated our ascii rsyslog: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/rsyslog/commit/526fee41744821c6ebe0d6e3d1153567b85a1d3b
  • sent the same patch upstream can anyone comment on the below?
  • status of ipv6 on the OVH infra? can we provide mirrors/websites/git over ip6? what about tor?
    • we have /64 on the nodes
    • the bridges (tap interfaces?) are set up for ip4

gnu_srs 🔼

  • Can somebody be instrumental in making policykit-1 and xfce-session built :)
  • Not the first priority atm
  • we are prioritizing on getting the installers working, and once we manage to perform proper installations using the built installers, we proceed on tasks with lower prio.
  • let us know if there is something urgent you need it for though.
  • Can you whoever you are identify yourself. Not nice to know who is writing this on behalf of the Devuan project :(
  • KatolaZ did most if not all of the talking with a few comments from
    1. golinux wrote the short summary. Not sure about the other
    2. I'm assuming KatolaZ

fsmithred 🔼

Here's the repo I imported: https://anonscm.debian.org/hg/collab-maint/clearlooks-phenix-theme

Here's the upstream repo (not debianized): https://github.com/jpfleury/clearlooks-phenix

obeardly 🔼

  • Still waiting on hardware for US based mirror. Should be here Friday. Hopefully US mirror will be online by Saturday 20 Feb 2018.
  • Where are we on repurposing the original Amprolla server? @KatolaZ: maybe use it as a server for backup? Link to the pad by Evilham?

golinux 🔼

  • still polishing CPDP a bit.
  • Updated the theme for refracta ascii.
  • FSR rolled an ascii iso for me so I'm finally up and running on VB. Still a minor glitch with USB yet to work out.
  • interesting discussion on DUF to clarify what systemd-free means because there's a lot of confusion in the wild. systemd disabled as init or systemd disabled as init PLUS removal of entanglements. There are actually quite a few Devuan users still hanging out there and many more planning to jump ship. No slaps from the mods which is

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