September 13/14 2017 @20:30 UTC 🔼

Location: https://meet.jit.si/devuan

Present: blinkdog, Centurion-Dan, Evilham, fsmithred, golinux, John Franklin, Mert Gor, onefang, rrq, tremon

Old business 🔼

Notes 🔼

parazyd 🔼

 * Status of CenturionDan and nextime's CI work? Quite a while has passed guys.
   * golinux - This on 2017-06-07 17:00 meet notes from three months ago (names redacted to 'depersonalize):
     * Need to review the CI flow which is too much manual
       * detail the manual steps needed and make a flow to pinpoint blockers
       * Developers journey documentation from making a repository to operating a build
       * Make a strategy for the different sub-repositories and jenkins groups

golinux 🔼

  • Haven't missed a Wednesday yet..
  • None of Evilham's improvements have made it to the live site because he has not yet been granted access to do so. Also there is confusing information that needs to be corrected. This does not reflect well on Devuan's competency but we are powerless to make the corrections. It's depressing.
  • YEA! Evilham now has permission to work on devuan-www
  • Fixed the table alignment issue globally and for good (Evilham)
  • Will post a list of past meeting notes urls from the list archive to the wiki. Will be a useful reference resource.

evilham 🔼

  • Still waiting on access / setup for the web parts
  • need either ssh (lim user) for the setup or that someone does it:
    • (root) create limited user
    • (root) make sure ruby and its build dependencies are installed
    • install middleman 3.4.1 for that limited user
    • create two directories "www" and "beta"
    • in www: git clone master branch
    • in beta: git clone beta.devuan.org branch
    • (root) setup nginx to serve devuan.org and beta.devuan.org accordingly over https
    • Maybe protect beta.devuan.org with pwd (not really necessary)
    • add cron job that re-creates website on branch changes
  • This can (should?) be later be replaced with _insert whatever here_ but it would solve a blocker *now*
  • Got master access to gdo/devuan-editors/devuan-www
  • Will migrate gdo/evilham/devuan-www there
  • Will create a deploy key to keep the mirror list up-to-date (sometimes mirrors are offline for a couple days)
  • Still have to clean up some code and commit it (re devuanmirror
  • Will implement a GL commit hook to get build on push working asap (Timeframe ca. 2 weeks)

tremon 🔼

  • Video status as usual
  • not sure what the question is -- but I simply don't have a webcam (tremon)
  • status of Ascii roadmap (https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/community_doc:devuan_ascii_roadmap)
  • is it still current?
  • many questions, few decisions
  • what priority / are all issues blockers?
    • (looks to me like userspace hardening shouldn't need to delay a release, if we don't ship a hardened kernel by default)
    • what is the bare minimum for shipping a workable distribution?
    • (golinux) - I've been looking at old meeting notes and found this from 2017-06-07 17:00. As with far too many items discussed at the meets there was no followup. I was going to go through all the old meeting notes to make a list of things that were marked for ACTION and unanswered questions. But once I started, it was too disheartening. Here are a few relevant to tremon's questions:
      • devuan ascii
      • a roadmap draft is here: Devuan ASCII Roadmap
        • append to it. when we think a certain topic is ready for discussion, we can discuss it on the devuan-dev mailing list
        • NO ACTION
      • we also could start maintaining a TODO pad with what ppl are working on
        • NO ACTION

blinkdog 🔼

  • Will attend video to observe

fsmithred 🔼

  • Working on cli refractainstaller to handle uefi. One script does both.

gnu_srs 🔼

  • ascii: Still unresolved debootstrap bug to build util-linux to install openrc :( (-100 - golinux)
  • Why are eudev packages still in experimental: In Debian packages get uploaded to sid, where they migrate to testing after a few days (unless RC bugs stops that)
  • No packages are built any longer: Why, even if the infrastructure is flaky, packages should still be built.
  • golinux - NO ACCESS to the build system? IIUC builds have to be initiated by someone (who probably is 'away')
    • Regarding recent build attempts: devuan-keyring-*, tried at least
    1. Fails on the binary target! (gnu_srs)
  • Q: Is it possible to see who is writing what on this pad?
  • Is that better (golinux)
    • ?? (gnu_srs)
    • I identified my responses (golinux)
  • Evilham: Synced with git.devuan.org on Wednesday 20:20 UTC: Is it possible to add the date too?

onefang 🔼

  • Can attend video meeting for a change. +1 (golinux)

Centurion Dan 🔼

  • have a little more time now
  • started working on releasebot again.. the testsuite is functionally complete as far as the mocks are concerned, now it just needs all the appropriate tests added.
  • working on getting access to www.devuan.org
  • Thank you! (golinux)